The Problem With Pet Food with Phivo The Dog Health Guy

 
 
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Our pets deserve the best care we can give them and for us that means holistic care. The cancer rate amongst dogs is around 50%, and it can be argued that these numbers have increased because of the foods we give our pets. Besides food, conventional pet health care is often marred by toxic chemicals and poisons in order to prevent flea and tick infestations or prevent parasitic infections, but we believe there’s a better way.

Meet Phivo:

This week we spent some time talking to a gentleman who was tired of the system and decided there could be a better way. Phivo, The Dog Health Guy and founder of Augustine Approved, speaks to us about his own journey and why he developed his own line of food, supplements, and skin care products for pets. On this episode we talk about the essential nutrients your pets need, the danger of processed foods, and some holistic options you can easily implement in your own routine.

Some Topics We Discussed:

  • What is causing all these chronic diseases in our pets? (5:22)

  • What are the most common issues plaguing pets? (10:02)

  • Where can you start if you want to incorporate more fresh food into your pet’s diet? (11:52)

  • What are some Augustine Approved products that can help our pets live their best lives? (18:38)

  • What is the truth behind flea and tick remedies? (27:23)

Key Takeaways From This Episode:

  • The root of all disease is inflammation. (6:01)

  • Just by changing the diet to include something fresh can drastically lower inflammation. (10:44)

  • Conventional treatments don’t seek to rebalance anything. They just try to mask a symptom but as a result can further damage the imbalance. (23:05)

  • When people decided they didn’t want to feed their dogs grains, that’s when the industry made change. It’s the consumers that bring change. (29:19)

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Brian Strickland 00:43 Hey everyone, welcome back to The Holistic Navigator Podcast, where we talk about all things holistic health, and believe in the body's ability to heal itself, if it's given the proper nutrients and care. Thank you so much for listening in today. My name is Brian Strickland. I'm the producer of this show. And today we're taking a small departure to talk about your pet's health. Did you know that cancer has become the leading cause of death in dogs with an estimated 50% of dogs developing cancer. These are some pretty sorry odds in our book in our pets deserve better. So we wanted to speak to an expert on the matter. Today we're speaking with Phivo, the dog health guy. Phivo hails from the land down under and is an outspoken advocate for pet health. And the founder of Augustine Approved, a product line of organic supplements and skincare products for your pets. With that being said, I'm going to go ahead and hand it over to the host of this show, Mr. Ed Jones.

Ed Jones 01:42 Thank you so much, Brian. And I want to tell you how stoked I am about today's podcast. You know, everyone who listens to me, at this point, if they've ever listened more than once or had any experience with myself, they know that I have a lifelong passion for the power of nutrition for health and healing. And you know, I focused my entire life on human nutrition. But I must say that I also fully absolutely realize that the same exact disasters of health and also miracles of health can happen in the animal world of dogs and cats. And I will have to say that about 12 years ago, in fact, I probably had 50 dogs in my life, and I'm not exaggerating. And I've loved every one of them. But despite the fact that I've had four decades of constant passionate learning about nutrition, I didn't really apply that to animals until about 12 years ago, and I had a golden retriever named Angel. And she you know, we love all our dogs. But then there's always those 1-3 that are like the most special of life. She was in the top three. And one day she started itching. She was about seven years old. And she looked perfectly fine, acted fine and took her to the vet and within 30 minutes he said she's got lymphoma. Boy, I just fell apart. I just bawled my eyes out. And it came to me within days. And I would didn't beat up on myself. But it came to me within days that the food I was feeding her, which was just that same old commercial grocery store dry kibble had to be part of that problem. Well, today, I am so so blessed to have found someone. He doesn't live close. He's in Australia, that is equally passionate about nutrition and the belief in it as I am, except he focuses on animals. Welcome Phivo to The Holistic Navigator.

Phivo Christodoulou 03:50 Thank you for having me, I really appreciate the opportunity to speak.

Ed Jones 03:55 Well, I have had the chance to work with one of my staff members who has been interacting with you for quite some time now. And she gives me all the heads up of where you are, what you're doing, your past history, and I am literally blown away. Because we share so much of the same philosophy and also a lot of the past history of kind of bucking the system which with that bucking the system can create some challenges as far as regulations, as far as people who don't want things to change, but Phivo is the director of Augustine Approved company that deals with animals, deals with dogs a lot and he does say that he knows a wee bit about nutrition. That's not very accurate. This man knows a tremendous amount. He's been a TV host, an animal rights advocate, public speaker, innovator. So welcome to the Holistic Navigator, Phivo. And, you know, I'm sure you have heard the similar stories that I just recalled about my precious Angel. In fact, it was the last dog I ever had. And that was 12 years ago. It was such a heartbreak. And I know now because you know, there's so much available to us to read. I like Dr. Becker, she's online with Dr. Mercola. And you know, we do have a couple holistic vets in the local area that I've certainly interacted with. Tell me and tell the listeners, what is going on with this disease and cancer and all this lessening of life expectancy with our precious pets?

Phivo Christodoulou 05:36 First, I should say, I had a foster dog a few years ago, which was also called Angel. So there you go. And I know that she's passed on now. Where do we start? I think the main thing that is overlooked, especially when you look at the majority of foods sold today is still even with a lot of shifts, fresh diets, and raw foods and so on. Is it majority is processed foods. And the main thing that is overlooked, which I guess undermines the whole system there is that one statement that I make is that the root of all disease can be argued is inflammation. So I guess it doesn't matter how much we spend on kibble, or canned foods, or the quality of the ingredients, because those foods are processed by their very design. They are inflammatory. So as you know, you can either feed disease or feed health. And unfortunately, that is part of the problem. Excuse my croaky voice. It is 12:30am here in Melbourne on a very surprisingly scorching day, which was about 30 something 35 degrees today Celsius, not Fahrenheit. That is a very hot day. But yeah, but and I think that's overlooked. I think people fall for the convenience of it. I am not opposed to I'm not against processed foods. I guess what I dislike is the way that it is marketed towards us. This is a staple diet, this is all you need to feed your dog, it's complete and balanced, it has all the nutrients and don't you dare try and make fresh food for your for your dog. You know, you're not qualified, you don't know what you're doing, you're gonna hurt your animal. And it couldn't be further from the truth. I think we need to go back to where we've come from back to nature. We look at some of the oldest living dogs, you know, pre vaccines, pre chemical parasite products, pre processed foods, they were living quite healthy off scraps, and so on. So yeah, that gives you a little bit of an introduction as to where I'm coming from. But then obviously, we need to work towards improving health through diet through herbs and things like that.

Ed Jones 07:51 Well, that's a wonderful explanation. In fact, anyone who's listened to me more than two or three podcasts, know that my deep seeded belief in the human system is that chronic inflammation feeds disease. It feeds all of the things we dread and are fearful of getting. Because that's and we're not going to explain it properly how that happens. But food is at the basis of how this process is going to the level that's creating disease. And I love the fact that you said that the mainstream people say we are not qualified. And you know, it goes across all lines, including the human. How dare you take natural remedies for sleep or for inflammation or to support your body? Where did you get your medical license was the old statement when people used to. You know, people in the conventional field would say when you question them, oh, where did you when did you graduate out of some arrogant attitude, as you know that can come across. Well, that is slightly changing in the human arena. But I don't think it is in the pet arena very much is it? They still had this hold on like they are the only guru experts or am I incorrect with that?

Phivo Christodoulou 09:06 You're not incorrect. It is slowly changing. You mentioned Dr. Karen Becker. She's one of the guests of the main speakers. I actually flew Dr. Becker out in 2015. The other day with the four year anniversary, we had a very big expo here in Melbourne. It was probably the most important live event that was ever held in regards to the health of our animals in Australia. Not supported by the veterinary board here. No one came on board from the mainstream, which was really sad, but it's not surprising. And you know, people with her profile and her caliber and her experience, have been preaching these things forever in a day but so much of the mainstream is has still not caught up. I should mention something that two main things that I see on a literally daily basis and I spend all my consulting over the phone I don't charge for my time. But what I see for hours every day, the two main things, one is joints or arthritis issues. And the other one is primarily skin issues. So if we start with joints, and also so we have arthritis, pancreatitis IBD. But all the itis conditions are obviously, inflammatory conditions. So when we look at commercial pet food, and the veterinary approach or the standard approach, it's crazy to me because what they basically say, oh, your dog has joint issues, let's give an injection, or take this anti inflammatory. But the majority of what is going into the dog's mouth, the majority of what it is consuming is promoting inflammation. Just by changing the diet to something fresh can greatly reduce inflammation. And so I have to start thinking that a lot of these cases are actually misdiagnosed. I just think it's the equivalent of us having junk food, and we're just constantly inflamed, our blood is climbing, you know, it's not, the body's not functioning the way it's supposed to be. When you're eating processed food, the body has to work harder to break it down. So everything's in overdrive, of course, they're not going to feel good. But when we change that around, when we go to fresh, we see the results quite quickly.

Ed Jones 11:23 Well, when you talk about that, and you and I think I can tell already believe in you know that humans, animals have something that is called a vital life force energy. And if we have enough of that, we can generally rebound and we can generally stay well. And if we do get sick, we'd get over it fairly quickly. Well, that has decreased significantly, of course, for everything that has warm blood flowing through it because of our environment, our toxins. Where does a person start? Let's just give some really good places, you know, and and certainly talk about your product, you know, how does a common person who doesn't want to get, you know, turn their whole life upside down for their pet, but they want to stop doing the wrong thing. They want to give the pet what it needs within reasonable limits. What would they do?

Phivo Christodoulou 12:13 Well, just my background, the reason the company is called Augustine Approved is because it was named after the first fresh food that I made at home that Augustine finally approved. So she was a little boxer puppy that I got, I also have Faith here, which is sleeping spread across my bed. Thanks, I don't get to sleep tonight. And she's my rescue dog as well. But with Augustine, you know, I thought there was something wrong with her, but she was just plagued with digestive issues. But what it came down to was really that just like everybody else out there, we're just getting processed food. I was taking the advice that I was given. And it wasn't giving me the desired result. So I just started cooking. I think you have to start somewhere. But if what I've developed in deliberately over the years is I guess, a method or a way to feed dogs. What I love about what I'm doing is it's not about products. The products are there, but it's about the message. It's about the approach or the outlook, there's a philosophy to it. So if people would like to start the products were always made for the sake of convenience, because what I find is we are instant creatures. We're all busy. We're all time poor. Some of us, you know, it can be financially draining to do this. So I found that by producing products, we could make it more cost effective to people. We offer free recipes, if people would like to make our recipes. And, and we can reach more people and help more animals. So I just want to be, I guess state that is not about you have to do it my way, my way is definitely not the only way. But it's a really good resource. So the first thing I can do, we are working on a new website at the moment. But we've the latest information if you go to Augustineapproved.com. Towards the top right of the homepage, there's a download magazine button. And just there is a link to that magazine. It's full of articles, recipes, feeding tips. It's a bit of a little Bible of how to raise dogs in a healthy way. And what I love the most is that the same logic applies to human health. And like you were saying, we spend so much time on the human side of things. I know some of the most holistic people on the planet that still haven't made that connection to their dogs and it's still feeding primarily processed food.

Ed Jones 14:47 Well and I'm sitting here scanning which I have done before your booklet. I am truly super impressed because it is an owner's manual. And it's an educational booklet. And again, people access this through going to your website. And you do have a wonderful Facebook page. Also, how do they access that?

Phivo Christodoulou 15:07 There's two pages, you can go to the company one, which is just typing Augustine Approved. Or you can just search the dog health guy or Phivo, the dog health guy. And the thing about the dog health guide pages, it's it's, I guess, it's my personal but public profile where I can talk about things that I wouldn't necessarily be able to talk about under a company brand. You know, we can be a bit more risque. We can talk about vaccines, we can talk about the chemical de-wormers, and all the things that are at times causing some problems. And we should say obviously, every country has different regulations and different laws, and different policies. So for example, I believe we're one of the only countries that vaccinates our dogs annually. That is still in the dark ages. America vaccinated every three years. For a lot of the vaccines, even though that's still not scientific, that's just, I guess, an agreement the Medical Board has there which is still problematic, because we do see every week cases of vaccine damage. It's not about being pro or anti vaccine, it's just purely the fact that the more that we breed dogs, the more we're watering down, guess their genetics or their strength in their genes, the more susceptible they are. You combine that the poor breeding because remember, we started with the wolf, and we end up with these beautiful dogs. I love them, don't get me wrong, but genetically, they're not very superior. And then, at the same time as the vaccines, we're giving these insecticide based poisons for parasites that a lot of the time they don't even need. And then we're giving them dry food, canned food, all the things that feed Candida or, you know, causing yeast infections and feeding those things. Because they're essentially convert to sugar, which is what cancer primarily feeds on, which is what candida primarily feeds on. So and that's another process if you'd like we can talk a bit about skin issues, because it seems to be a bit of their specialty at the moment.

Ed Jones 17:22 Well, and you're, you know, you are exactly right. I mean, the people who come into, or as counsel or I speak to and have for 40 years, I would say 50% of all comments about their pets has to do with allergies and skin issues. And, you know, when you compare the wolf to the present dog, and the lack of I guess I would use the word maybe sturdiness resilience. You can say the same thing about people because, you know, I would hate to think that we had to go into another world war with the, with the lack of constitution that we have in the human system today. I mean, you know, people get derailed, because they have a splinter in your finger that gets infected, and they have all these red streaks and are on massive antibiotics. What the hell happened? Why did we become so weak? Well, you and I know why we became so weak. And you know, again, I go back to, and you go back to the chronic inflammation, you go back to Candida and I speak, I've spoken several times about the glyphosate and the which, you know, is sprayed on all the lawns, you know, and then your dog and cat gets on it. And these little animals, everything concentrates in them hot to higher levels than it does us because they have smaller bodies. Well tell me again about this Faith product, because I'm really, you know, I know it says, you know, healthy skin and coat, immune system, Candida. And the other thing is kidney function. How many people and animals you know, in the last few weeks, it's like, oh, the kidneys are shutting down. Well, that is that is probably the most weak organ when you're super unhealthy for every living creature. So if I'm feeding my dog, what I think is really good food, but I want to reach a new level is Faith, the thing I should add to it or tell me about that?

Phivo Christodoulou 19:12 Absolutely. Faith's cleanse and detox is part of the whole, I guess, approach. But what's really interesting today, when we look at this is, first of all, what I always preach, and again, part of the magazine is I talk about accumulation, and putting the dogs in a constant state of cleansing. So it's not that the raw diet that you've got so many raw feeders and fresh feeders and I completely agree with that. But what we're seeing today is that many, many years ago, we could feed a dog just a raw fresh meat and it could live in their 20s and they're super healthy. That's a very rare these days. Because if you're not doing anything to put the dog in a daily constant state of cleansing, the pesticides that you mentioned for example, in the Melbourne tap water, I believe there's over 150 chemicals. You know, the soil, the air, pollutants in the food, and so on, it all accumulates. So, just like us, they are time bombs. Cancer, this does not happen overnight. It's a process, it takes time. Kidney failure, all these things take time unless you know the poison that goes in. So Faith's cleanse and detox is part of that constant state of cleansing. So it's made of 22 different herbs. And they're all very powerful herbs that do specific things, instead of using less herbs. This is quite unique. Instead of using less herbs in bigger doses, which you'd want to take breaks from, we use very, very small amounts of each herb that have been tested to work together. So we can use the least amount of herbs with the most amount of efficacy. So Faith cleanse and detox was initially really brought to market many years ago, under our label, it's the only product in our range. That is not my own formula, made by an amazing local man here called Ross Wilson, who's been working with herbs for over 30 years. But we initially brought it to market as a natural parasite product. You may know the story where we actually now have to sue the Australian Government, because they are preventing all natural companies from promoting any natural parasite product.

Ed Jones 21:31 Really?

Phivo Christodoulou 21:31 Very long story. It's crazy. So it's not about efficacy, it's not about safety. It's purely the fact, what it comes down to is the way the legislation is set up is to favor pharmaceutical interests. And every time one of those chemical products that is registered, the big names that do fleas, ticks, internal parasites, the government basically gets money from that in the form of levies. If you can't register a natural product, under the current legislation, if you can't register that product, they cannot make money from you. They don't need you on them. You have these products in one hand that 1000s of adverse reactions have been reported each year. And you have another product, for example, like Faith cleanse and detox, which is squeaky clean. And we have been prevented from making those marketing claims for the time being. So we literally have to take legal action, whereas we can obviously say other things. So it does help to maintain the right balance of the gut. So many people actually take the product, a lot of women for Candida. So it's highly effective those herbs, and we just see the difference in people and animals when they take it over a period of time. You know, the fact that you have a dog, as you know, with vaccines, when they're puppies, they get the shots, and at the same time they get an insecticide putting their bodies to apparently prevent ticks and so on, or fleas. And what we see there is their digestive system is out of whack. You know, their immune system hasn't even developed properly. And they're already smashed with all these things. So then what do we do? Which I think is one of the most irresponsible things straight to antibiotics, you got a four month old puppy on antibiotics, which is crazy, because when you start there, it's very hard to go back from that down the medical route. Then it's just more antibiotics and then we end up which basically in a simple way of explaining it numb the immune system. They don't fix anything, they don't rebalance anything. And the best way that I can describe things is I would argue that every element, every issue that we have stems from an imbalance in the body. Irrespective of what the cause of that imbalance is, but it does not make sense if we are from the earth, we are electrical beings, we are lifeforce, we have frequency, but it does not make sense that we can create balance from something so unnatural from these medications. You can mask, you can numb, but you cannot generally restore balance.

Ed Jones 24:27 So that's a wonderful explanation and it certainly applies to humans. And so if I'm giving my dog the healthiest food I know which I want to learn more and other people do. I would add Faith to the food is that correct?

Phivo Christodoulou 24:41 Faith's cleanse and detox but the number one thing as well they work hand in hand. So face cleanse and detox is a herbal product. Your whole food supplement for overall health is Augustine's Super Boost. It's alkalizing. So it's oxygenating the blood it's helping see an illegal version, I guess of blood doping that they're doing in the Tour de France. So and I'm not kidding when I say this, if Lance Armstrong and so on, we're actually doing something like this, I probably would have had similar or better results, you know, without the legal implications, but so the reason Augustine's Superboost i want to mention that is because it's so alkalizing so for joint health, people can read from a few 100 reviews there. How many 15 year old dogs are running around like puppies again?

Ed Jones 25:29 Really?

Phivo Christodoulou 25:30 Absolutely. It's on the website. And I think the thing that is overlooked, I think we are misdiagnosing arthritis and inflammatory conditions. We are seeing dogs with pancreatitis, IBD, and so on living symptom free. We're seeing it all the time. So are they really disease, I mean, the way that maybe this is a little cheeky, but the way that I would phrase this is, if I give a dog fresh food, or fresh food ingredients in their food, and their so called medical conditions are going away, or there's no sign of the symptoms. Is it truly a disease? Or is it just a nutritional imbalance?

Ed Jones 26:12 Exactly. That's a wonderful, wonderful way to look at it. Because, you know, the medical system wants to package it, as you know, they're the wizards. And they've cured us, but they didn't. The body cured itself, sometimes even in the presence of toxic drugs. But, you know, they take credit for it. And it is like patching a tire. And you know, you can patch it in a roll down the road for some time, but it's going to have a weakness to it that will eventually cause you to stop running that car. And I love the fact that you referred to so much of what's going on as time bombs because we are human and pet health, we have time bombs of multiple levels and layers. So again, so if I'm getting me a new dog, and I'm gonna follow which I would follow your advice, because you are the guru. I've never spoke to anyone with more lifelong knowledge, experience and passion, then you Phivo on the truth and is is the truth. And I'm on a rabbit trail here, I've got to ask you this before I tend to forget it. What about all the years that I did believe the I won't even be bad. I'm not gonna say bad words about it. Believe that the philosophy of the bat that said, the flea and tick remedies that won't penetrate into the body, you put it on the back of the neck, and it's perfectly safe. What's the truth?

Phivo Christodoulou 27:34 The evidence is there, we see that every day, there's Facebook groups with 1000s and 1000s of followers, they're posting the videos, they're posting photos, the reporting, they're putting up the adverse reports, the FDA, I think is coming down hard on some of them now making them change their labels and adding more side effects. That's one that I think that was forced to put a seizure warning. It doesn't make sense that you put something that is toxic. I mean, how brainwashed are we as a society? And I'm one of those people that was where you give these chemical products and on the label, it says poison or it says Keep out of reach of children? Why are we ever looking at that? I'd like to say something about the medical industry, though, because I'm definitely not against that either. What I see is, you have an industry, if I'm not mistaken, I'm not sure about the US. But I know that in Australia, I believe that's one of the highest rates of suicide. These are good people that have gone into the industry to make a difference and to help animals. Right? It's not because they're bad people when they want to take advantage and charge through the nose. They have genuine intentions. The trouble is though, their toolbox is very limited. And don't get me wrong if we have an accident with our animals, or even with ourselves, that's when doctors are absolutely crucial. I can't give you a whole food supplement for a broken arm. But you know, they know what they need to do for those emergencies. They know how to keep you alive in case of a car accident. But what I see here in the in the industry and this is the shift that's happening is for many years, for example, with kibble, perhaps most of them have grains. And it wasn't until the people started saying we don't want grains that all of a sudden grains free is the new fad. But the people had to stop buying and the people had to switch to other things before the industry caught on. It's not industries that make changes. Because they're progressive. It's out of absolute, I guess, force that they're doing it. So what I see is back in the day, our ancestors, my grandmother, you know all these people that were older and wiser knew what they needed to do when there was disease or illness. And the medical industry came in, and they basically said, you need these pills, you need these surgeries, and so on. So what we end up with is, all these people now for the last few decades where they have skin issues, whether they'll be diabetes, pancreatitis, and so on, and they're not getting the results, especially with skin, they'll pay a few $1,000 at the vet, and it's this merry go round antibiotics, steroids, abiquo, and so on. And they go round and round and round in circles. And then they get fed up. And then what is really sad, they come to someone like me, and we get them results. But then they say, I hate the vet. I want to go back there. And then bad mouth of it, that I've been in a situation where I had a dog that needed veterinary care, and I didn't trust the vet, I didn't have a local vet that I trusted. And unfortunately, it was at the detriment of the dog. So what I would love is more proactive veterinarians, as Dr. Karen Becker calls it, I'd love to see more of them that are willing to open up, learn more, add tools to their toolbox, because I don't want you know, the sake of me making an income, I don't want them, I don't want I don't want customers or dog owners running off away from the veterinary industry. We should all be working together. And, you know, at the end of the day, remember these vets wanted results. So if we have something natural or chemical that works, I'd love to be able to work more closely with them. And that's the shift that I'm seeing now. It's very slow. But a lot of vets are saying, Okay, this stuff we're going to school does not work. How do we fix this? And it's slowly, slowly happening.

Ed Jones 31:56 Well, that was very eloquent, a wonderful explanation. And I know Brian would certainly nod his head to this, that probably every other podcast I have done in the past 54, I have said the same thing about the medical field. I said, these are generally very good, heart centered people who have wonderful intentions to help people. But what happened is they're in a broken system. And their toolbox has been forced to be only the drugs and the surgeries and not respecting the vital health, healing energy that we were given at birth, and nourishing that vital health energy by something that does not have a side effect. So I love that explanation. So let's get one more point across here. And I want to say the reason I asked that question on the flea and tick remedy was and you know, you're exactly right. Why my logical brain because I'm not a dumb person, especially about health. But I still now I was conservative. I will say I still questioned whether at whether I should use it. But you know, it's convenient when your dog has fleas to put this stuff on. Because the damn stuff works. There's no doubt, but every other time I did it to my bichon she would go throw up yellow stuff within three hours. Duh. I mean, does that not tell anyone it did tell me that so really only used it three times a year during bad times. But again, I've been told that it doesn't even go into the system of the dog. Well, that makes no sense at all. We can't believe that kind of stuff. So if I get a new dog I'm going to do whole food diets or true whole food diets which we've talked about on my podcast plenty, but then I would I would certainly add Faith and super boost to it but tell me what will I do when I had the flea problem? What would I do?

Phivo Christodoulou 33:47 Well, firstly anything you put on your skin, it takes seconds to enter the bloodstream. You can't you don't have this magic nylon barrier on your skin. actually even that would be poorest. But with with my what I promote is a risk versus reward. If you go to the Phivo, the dog health guy Facebook page, the main video that I currently have up up the top, it's all about parasites. It's a very concise, so what there's two ways to approach it when you use herbs. So for example, Faith's cleanse and detox and they alter the taste of the blood. It's very important to remember that parasites are generally attracted to a weakened immune system. So when we do the flea products, internal topical and so on, when we over vaccinate, when we do all these things that will walk It's no secret they will weaken the immune system do not strengthen the immune system. So you already priming the animal to be more prone to parasites. So for general contact, what we found is that Faith's cleanse and detox which is a consumable, it alters the taste of the blood. If you're walking down the street, one or two fleas jump on, might have a bite. They don't like the taste, it's not pleasant. They'll want to jump off. If you come in contact with an infestation. I know that some people use them a tasteless Earth, which can be a bit irritating on the skin. We have a zeolite product, which is a rock mineral. We have it under the label F-Off. And what we have found is when you apply to the skin, because it's not a poison, it's just a powdered rock mineral. It absorbs moisture. And it dehydrates anything that's there without hurting the animal, similar to dermatitis. So, again, it's just a bit more gentle, but a lot more effective. So that's how I would approach it. But just remember if your dog does not have fleas, do you really need to do anything topical. You know, when we look at heartworm, and so on. A lot of areas, especially when I'm in Melbourne, I still get emails from my local vet to come and get a heartworm test and get my heartworm injections for my dog, which is crazy. Because the climate here when you understand how heartworm can grow and spread, we do not have the climate to support that you need a certain amount of heat for a certain amount of time and so on. We do not get that in Melbourne. So it's pretty much impossible to get heartworm here. The fear mongering campaigns continue. So these are all the things, please, if you all get a chance to watch the video, we just talked about even the fact that dogs in the wild, I'm sure you're familiar with fasting and the benefits of fasting. In the wild, a dog, if they were lucky, they would eat every three to four days. So when they would eat, they would gorge and their stomach acid would be at its strongest. And that was an environment that was far more conducive. Well, it's just a natural parasite prevention on its own. You know, now, we're feeding foods that feed disease and feed parasites. We don't even have a structure of how we feed dogs, how often we feed them. You know, I try to allow even up to 24 hours, it was small amounts of fasting for the dogs. Yeah, we could be talking for hours about that.

Ed Jones 37:36 Absolutely, I'm gonna tell you what, I just am so freaking impressed. And you know, all of this does apply to humans, every single thing you have said. And I love your book. I mean, this Augustine Approved book is like a Bible of information. And I had no idea you could do hair analysis on dogs to determine more information. So that's in the book, but and that part that says 15 tips to improve your dog's diet today. This is what every person needs to read who has a pet and they care about, you know, holistic health because your reference and analogy to the flea is exactly the same as cancer really, for humans. You take a body and you keep it massively strong and resilient. And you follow the rules of nature, everything from intermittent fasting, to the nourishing, the clean foods, your chances of disease is so reduced. It is not guaranteed. And I tell people that I mean we live in a very complex world of you know, emfs and stress and things can get us that have nothing to do with our foods and we have to understand that lack of sleep, you know, bing bang bang. But the thing is we can we're in a declining health society that is tremendously frightening to look at, because people are still living a decent amount of years. But really they died when they were 50 they just took their last breath at 75 and you know they're struggling. The average Tennesseean and who this is you're talking to someone here in Tennessee is on 16 prescription drugs per year. And we know that every one of those drugs is conducive to something happening in the body that's positive but it has too many negatives. So the risk against benefit simply does not weigh itself out. And you and I respect this power of nature and the the the vital life energy and you can't raise that vital life energy with synthetic drugs. However, I will say the same thing you did. I don't want to be in a world without hospitals and ambulances and quick acting medicines in the veterinarian or in the human. But we have to understand the limitations of that. Yes, I have a heart attack actually send me to the hospital. I don't want Hawthorne Berry, but I want you know, I want to say that I how much I have learned about you know, just this whole topic from talking you today. And I know we're gonna do another podcast and you know, we spoke about it. You spoke about the fact that the industry, veterinarian industry and the human industry is slow to change. And I remember reading a quote by Upton Sinclair. Long ago, he was trying to get the word out about how despicable the meat industry was, I think in the 1930s. Or even earlier, and his quote was, it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on him not understanding it. That quote still applies today, because you have people who are making very good incomes. Well, this is throwing a wrench in all of that, and you know, people, people, our people, and we have our weaknesses. So why don't we, if there's anything else you want to say, at this point, but I can guarantee people listening, we're going to do a specific podcast, if you're willing Phivo to you know, maybe a little bit more specific topics. But I want everyone to listen to you and go to your website, go out and download this free book, go to your Facebook, if you care about the health of your pets, your loved precious pets, because it's not happening with the kibble. It's not happening with the massive medications. When my Angel got diagnosed with the lymphoma. You know, the vet was so caring and I and you know, veterinarian people really are caring, loving people. But he said what the only thing he could say, we'll give him steroids, and we'll give them a drug to ease her discomfort for the next four weeks, because it ain't looking good. Well, I didn't know much about herbal medicine for pets. I just knew about humans. So what I did was I didn't give her the medicine, I came up with my own little formula. And she lived six months instead of six weeks and never had a real issue until the last one to two weeks. And we knew it was time. So I was grateful that I didn't, you know, succumb to the just treatment of symptom because I know that would have weakened or further and probably taken her out quicker. But so tell people again, right now if they want to get to you, and I love the fact you said you do phone consultations, or is it Skype? Or how do you do that?

Phivo Christodoulou 42:09 Just normally by phone, they can call me on WhatsApp or FaceTime audio, I'm not very hard to find my details are on the website in the magazine. And this is my passion. So what I found was by doing the products 95% of the time, or there abouts, to put it loosely. The products in the whole philosophy is enough. And the other 5% of cases, that's where I spend my time. I'm a bit of a nerd for this. So you know the trouble cases, that's the ones that I'd like to work on and see and find a solution. So if I could just a couple of quick things to polish up here is the whole idea of feeding a balanced diet. We got to some extent being fooled, and it is a marketing ploy. When was the last time you or I or anyone you know, when was it that they had a balanced diet for a day, let alone a week or a month. The only nutrients they need that was all calculated not just for bodybuilding, but actually nutritionally sound. With anything that we do, please remember it's risk versus reward. And even on the the quote that you mentioned about someone's salary depending on not understanding something or not knowing something, we have a recipe for a product called Super Heal, we give it for free. Because I do believe that the there's anything even remotely close to a remedy or a cure or whatever you like to call it for cancer. cure is not a word that I like to use by any means. I don't believe there's ever going to be such a thing as a cure. And we'll get into that that's a whole other topic. But we give you the recipe for Super Heal for free. And we have videos showing what it can do. It's basically a topical salve made from tumeric, lecithin and coconut oil. We have seen it reverse a number of different lumps from basal cell carcinoma on people. I've had to this is all anecdotal, by the way, and I'll tell you why it's anecdotal in a moment. So we've had a couple of cases of melanoma where people have reported they've used that with success, mast cell tumors on animals, cysts and so on. And, again, we're not really allowed to advertise this stuff on the label. And we're very responsible in the way that we speak about this because I'm not suggesting that anyone does anything without the guidance of a licensed physician. Of course, for example, if you have a melanoma, by all means, go and you know, go down the medical route. I can't be responsible or don't want to deter anyone from from treatment. We had an example of an older gentleman in his 70s that was booked into remove melanoma. And he decided in the meantime while he was booked in to start applying it any work for you. So what you were saying, though about income? Imagine that you're a cancer surgeon, you're very respected. You've got two mortgages and ex wife and three children to put through school and you've got your Porsche you have to pay for. And some guy comes along and says, here's a free recipe, you can buy this for $30. And you don't need to do surgeries. What would you do? I've seen this so many cases documented that we have dogs with lamps, where they've been quoted 1000 US dollars, to have the lumps removed. And I apply this for, you know, one to two weeks, and it works. So that's not something that unfortunately, the industry is going to welcome. Even though long term. Imagine you save a dog's leg as a veterinarian, because you're using this cream instead of doing the surgery. Sure, he might have not gotten 700 to $1,000 up front, but the respect the referrals that you will get from that, or something, if it's not life threatening, or it's not urgent. I think we're very short sighted, we're only seeing what's in front of us now and the long term benefits of moving towards the natural approaches. Anyway, thanks for having me. I'm so grateful to have an opportunity to speak with you, Ed.

Ed Jones 46:27 Well, I am so grateful myself. And I'm going to be walking away from this with a whole new added passion for learning even more and tell people how on that super heal now where will they find the recipe?

Phivo Christodoulou 46:42 On the store page for superhero where you go to purchase, it's all listed there. And the reason I've done that is because I need people to read all the information you need to know what you're getting into. You need to know what to expect, you need to know that you need a licensed physician to make sure everything goes to plan. This is not child's play. And we would like to be responsible. You can Google Superheal, one word superhero should come up this dog versus lump 1,2,3 and four videos on YouTube. And you can see how this all started. I basically took the research from UCLA where they were reducing the size of tumors using coconut oil and tumeric. I had a hunch that if I added lecithin, I could start getting rid of them. And that's what we did. Ironically, on what you were saying I contacted the UCLA multiple times by email and telephone and they were not interested in talking with me on my results.

Ed Jones 47:41 Well, what a surprise. But it's a no it saddens people like us who feel like we've, you know, we've climbed this mountain, and we've had no, you know, we've not accidentally intentionally found this treasure under this huge rock that we work so hard to roll over. And we come back down that mountain thinking, you know, a lot of people are gonna be excited. And what do they do? They just close the door to us. But I know and you know that we are doing the right thing for the right people at the right time in this world. And nothing's gonna stop myself nor you in this path. And I do understand the medical and the legal legalities of proper labeling, because we can't have everyone coming up with, you know, all cures, hokey cures and good ones. And being able to say, with big bold print, oh, this is going to cure you. But there has to be the ability for people to choose their health care, whether the government agrees or not, there has to be ways that, you know, the information can can be presented without it, you know, without it being illegal. And, you know, the fact that Google now has changed our algorithms on June 9 of this year, that has changed the search engine capacity, because they are against us people like you and I, they actually have a board now that they call a Harvard board that is going to approve or disapprove anything that has to do with health advice, and that has to do with nutrition. So if it's not standard, conventional, we're going to be on page 13 instead of page one. So you know, we have a we have a battle ahead of us.

Phivo Christodoulou 49:13 Isn't it sad that all these people they've forgotten where we've come from? That's what hurts me the most that these people are so disconnected from their origins and you know, the true medicine. And you know, it's the people and the animals that suffer. But, you know, and I don't know if this is the same in the US but what we have here and this is why I am banging my head up against the wall is the Faith's cleanse and detox what we've been told we're not allowed to market the product on the labels for parasites, for example, with the with the human side of the law, so you have the FDA. So with the animal side in Australia, we have the APVMA. In the human side, we have the TGA, whereas you have the FDA for both. So we were able to go over to the TGA the human side, we showed our scientific evidence for the claims that we wish to make, which are technically mild claims because we say, may assist with or has a role in. And in under 24 hours, we were able to list the product as a complementary medicine for humans. And we can make claims about parasites, Candida and so on. So the irony of the legislation for animals which is in the dark ages that I can say to a man or a woman he go take Faith cleanse and detox this will have a role in clearing up your parasites, your candida, but I can't say the same for a dog or a cat, it just blows my mind.

Ed Jones 50:49 Wow. That significantly important to know again, and you know, things are gonna hopefully, we're gonna keep going on and make something change. We are and I do want to say our main sponsor, nutritionw.com, you can go on there and look at the products, you can go to your website, look at the products. And I encourage everyone and I do want to say legally, you know, if your dog's been treated for a medical condition, you know, legally check with him before doing anything as you can tell by the tone of my voice, the sarcasm, but I am saying that. Hey, Phivo, I want I know that you and I are going to continue the good fight and you and our brothers in this. So I look forward to the next time that we chat. And I know people who listen will. So I know it's late for you. Thank you so much from the deepest place in my heart for putting, you know getting staying up this late and making a service of what you do. You are a gladiator and thank you so much Phivo.

Phivo Christodoulou 51:45 That's probably the nicest introduction and conclusion I've ever had. Very grateful just for the opportunity to speak. And thank you to everyone that listened. Very grateful for your time. Yeah, have an awesome day.

Ed Jones 51:58 All right, my friend who has an awesome sleep and this is Ed with The Holistic Navigator. And we are just thrilled for all our listeners, please send any questions emails, and we look forward to meeting you next week on The Holistic Navigator. Thank you.

Brian Strickland 52:15 Thanks for listening to The Holistic Navigator Podcast. For more information, previous episodes and other resources, visit theholisticnavigator.com. The information on this podcast and the topics discussed have not been evaluated by the FDA or any one of the medical profession and is not aimed to replace any advice you may receive from your medical practitioner. The Holistic Navigator assumes no responsibility or liability whatsoever on the behalf of any purchaser or reader these materials. The holistic navigator is not a doctor nor does he claim to be please consult your physician before beginning any health regimen.


 

“The root of all disease can be argued is inflammation. So I guess it doesn’t matter how much we spend on kibble or canned foods, or the quality of ingredients. Because those foods are processed by their very design, they are inflammatory.”

-PHIVO, THE DOG HEALTH GUY